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MATHEW CERLETTY: There were a lot of practical reasons, like the fact that the people I would ask to pose never really wanted to do it; it was always very awkward and inevitably the person I painted would be really weirded out by the result, like, "Ah . . . You made me look creepy." Also, figure painting was all that I was really taught in school. When I moved to New York, I got a crash course in the last 50 years of art history. I wasn't really drawn to figure paintings when I went to gallery shows.
CB: There are a lot of labels on your canvases, but rather offbeat choices, like The Economist or Diet Coke. Are you picking things close at hand?
MC: It's totally just me, whatever I'm into at the time. There's a gestation period I'm not fully in control of. I had a subscription to The Economist, and I thought, Oh, I could paint that, which at the time seemed really stupid. But six months would pass, and I'd look at it, and I could still imagine it being a painting. If some time passes and I can't shake it, then I usually pursue it.
"WE GOT LOCKED IN THE SUBWAY, AND THIS STRANGE HOMELESS-LOOKING GUY LET US OUT. HE WAS REALLY SCARY. AND AT ONE POINT HE SAID, ‘I LOVE EXERCISE.’ IT WAS SORT OF INSPIRED, I THOUGHT. SO I PAINTED THOSE WORDS."
—MATTHEW CERLETTYCB: What about the random catchphrases, like your painting I Love Exercise?
MC: That's a long story. It's from when a friend and I got trapped in the subway tunnels in Boston. We were there after hours, and we got locked in the subway, and this strange homeless-looking guy let us out. He was really scary. And at one point he said, "I love exercise." It was sort of inspired, I thought. So I painted those words.
CB: What are you working on now?
MC: I'm doing a painting of roses. It's an endless painting. It's a pattern from a fabric I found by this company called Scalamandré-Jackie O was a big fan.
CB: You were brilliant at painting brocades in wallpapers, which is so specialized. But then you have a very quick and simple style of painting, like 1959 x-ed out.
MC: That was from a picture in The New York Times. There was a woman in a crowd holding that sign, and she was smiling. I downloaded it and then didn't look at it for a long time. But eventually I went back to it and wanted to make my own version of her sign. And I figured out that 1959 was the year [baseball's] Chicago White Sox won their last pennant [prior to 2005]. But what I thought was cool was the idea of protesting a year that already happened.
CB: Yeah, fuck 1959.
See the Mathew Cerletty interview with Interview Magazine HERE
See Mathew's portfolio HERE
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